Are you a Human Design Projector? Let’s talk on invitations, recognition and energetic guidance for Projectors with my special guest, Juliana Christine. Juliana is first and foremost a student of life, rhythm and magic.

She’s a psychotherapist, a mystic, a philosopher, a dream worker and a guide. She’s also a fellow Human Design specialist. We were actually in Karen Curry Parker’s year long mastermind together, coach mastermind, so we trained together to be Human Design coaches. And she helps clients weave their past and future into the present so that they can experience the truth that they truly are powerful co-creators of their reality.

And Juliana is a Projector, which I love. I know that as a listener, you want to hear more about Projectors and the Projector experience. We have Juliana here live to talk about that and all of the magic that she weaves into her life.

What You’ll Learn:

• The beauty of Projector’s being an absolute LIGHT in, and for, this world.
• How bitterness can be present for Projectors – and how to navigate it.
• Embracing rest as a Projector, and avoiding burnout too.
• How learning to recognize what season you are in, and what season your menstrual cycle is in, can deeply support you.
• The incredible experience that a 3/5 profile in Human Design lives, learns and then teaches back to the world.
• How to ask for recognition – and how to recognize yourself.

Perhaps the most beautiful take-away from this episode is how to recognize yourself as a Projector. And that comes in the form of mirror work.

Listen to Episode 42 of Unjaded Now:

As Juliana unpacks for us: “How can I expect people to recognize me? If I’m not recognizing myself? This world, it is a house of mirrors, as one of my mentors says, right? The house of mirrors and so everything is a reflection for us to learn from. And so if I’m looking for that reflection from someone to recognize me for opportunities so that I can shine my light brighter in the world, I need to go and stand in front of the mirror and recognize myself.”

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Find the Entire Transcribed Episode Here:

Vickie Dickson:

Welcome to Unjaded. I am so excited to have Juliana here with us today. Juliana is first and foremost a student of life rhythm and magic. She’s a psychotherapist, a mystic, a philosopher, a dream worker and a guide. She’s also a fellow Human Design specialist. We were actually in Karen Curry Parker’s year long mastermind together, coach mastermind, so we trained together to be Human Design coaches. And she helps clients weave their past and future into the present so that they can experience the truth that they truly are powerful co-creators of their reality. And Juliana is a Projector, which I love. I know that as a listener, you want to hear more about Projectors and the Projector experience. We have Juliana here live to talk about that and all of the magic that she weaves into her life. So welcome, Julian, I’m excited to have you here.

Juliana Christine:

Thank you so much, Vickie, I was super excited to be here.

Vickie Dickson:

So I am noticing that you are showing up a whole lot more online for a little while. I know that you you were traveling for a little while and you had some really mystical mystical experiences there. And now you’re back in Canada. And all of a sudden, I’m seeing you everywhere online. Every time I turn on Instagram. I’m like, oh, there’s Juliana. So can you talk to me a little bit about that? What’s happening for you?

Juliana Christine:

Yeah, when I was in Mexico, Mexico’s a very magical, magical country. We were, I was in the center of the mountains of Mexico. And I experienced a lot of deep connection with the land. We were in mountains of Quartz and Amethyst. And then I was in mountains of Copper. And I had these very synchronistic experiences, where I met medicine, medicine men, medicine women. And part of my experience in Mexico was the returning to the truth, the truth, the truth itself, the truth of other, the truth of what we’re here doing on this planet. And social media has been something that I think a lot of us actually feel this way that it’s like there’s an aversion to it. And what I realized in my time in Mexico is that I realized this true idea of being of service. And that what I came here to do in this lifetime, in this body, my soul was to be of service. And I realized that I need to then put myself out into the ethers and allow those ethers shine that lighthouse, that Projector Lighthouse that’s often referred to as being a Projector so that people can actually find me. And so that’s how come I’m starting to show up on Instagram more. I will be posting on my YouTube again very soon as well and sending out my newsletters a little bit more so that I can just shine that light and be of service to the planet at this particular time.

Vickie Dickson:

And it’s beautiful the way that you serve, I love it. I was searching on your website. I think it was last night I was searching on your website and I downloaded the meditation. Thank you for that. So it’s beautiful the way that you’re showing up and serving. But lots of times what we would hear from Projectors is I can’t because I’m tired. And I’m always like fighting back on that. It’s like you’re not called to be tired as a Projector. You’re called to be rested as a Projector. So you talk about how rest looks different for Projectors, and maybe for each Projector, you know, one one from the other how it looks different. Can you talk a little bit about that?

Juliana Christine:

Yeah, so I think there’s a journey that happens with Projectors, we discover we are Projectors because of the level of burnouts that can really like hit to the level of like, like, into our bones, into ourselves when we realize how actually tired we are and what my own personal experience and then when I’ve also seen other Protectors is then the bitterness gets really big. That bitterness gets really big because it kind of feels, for myself, it kind of felt like I was ripped off. I was saying I’ve been ripped off of my life because I didn’t know all of this and I discovered Human Design in 2018 and I really needed to get really radical on what rest meant to me. And I really needed to reconcile that bitterness of feeling like I was ripped off like all of the conditioning that I experienced and I don’t know, I don’t know if all Projectors experience it – but I know I did. I was angry for a while, you know what it’s like, and then any time I would try to share what that meant, people didn’t get it. And so I really needed to recognize what rest meant for me.

Vickie Dickson:

And what does it mean for you? What does rest look like?

Juliana Christine:

The rest means tapping into my own cycles. So I am. I love looking to nature for our reflection of how we’re meant to live as humans. And nature goes through spring, summer, autumn, and winter. And so do we, as humans. There’s just been this conditioning of disconnection that we’re, you know, designed to be like manifestors initiators just go ahead and do it. Right. And so I look to nature for that reflection. And then I asked myself, well, what season am I currently in, in my life as a whole? What seasons are mine? Maybe I’m in spring, right? Maybe I’m in winter. And when I’m in winter, because I’ve just come out of winter, I tap into bear energy, Mother Bear, and I’m like, what does Mother Bear do during this time, she sleeps, she nurtures herself, she moves slowly. And then I go deeper into my own menstrual cycle. And I asked myself what part of my menstrual cycle am I in at this time, and this is a newer for me. But I have found that that tapping into the different hormones that are happening in my body is, it’s like I’m accessing some magic potion, because now I know that the first bit of my cycle, I can get shit done. And so I lean into that, and I allow that to happen. And then I know in the last bit of my cycle, it’s more my own personal winter. And I’m gonna rest more. And that has really helped me to avoid burning out in my business.

Vickie Dickson:

Because I think that people think that burnout is something that happens once. But they don’t realize like, I mean, I had to go through it three times in my life, and I’m a Manifesting Generator. I think that once we’ve been through burnout, we are more, more susceptible to it again, because we don’t do that winter season, we don’t take care of ourselves too late. We just kind of, oh, well heal a little bit. I’ll watch a movie or something for a week, and then I’ll be good. You know, I’ll chill and watch Netflix for a week, and then we’ll be good and that we call that rest. And then we get up and we start all over again, we don’t change anything. I want to ask you just one question about the cycle thing, because this is a fascinating thing that I find with my clients. So I’m emotionally defined, and a lot of my clients actually are emotionally defined as well. And I find that the route pulse which you have a defined route, the route pulse and the emotional wave and the cycle work together. Do you find that your root poles and your menstrual cycle work together?

Juliana Christine:

Hey, I’ve never thought of that before. But now that you’re saying that, yeah, totally. 

Vickie Dickson:

Yeah, they do layers on each other, for sure that the universe wouldn’t be too cruel to have us be, you know, root pulse is off and menstrual energy on or vice versa, you know, so it’s interesting how it works together. So I just want to backtrack for a second to the bitterness, because a lot of my listeners are kind of resistant to the bitterness word. It seems like well, I don’t want to be with bitter like the last thing I want to be as bitter. I don’t want to be accused of being bitter. And I noticed you use the word angry as well. Sometimes I find resentful sits a little better. But what is bitterness to you? What does it actually feel like as a projector to be bitter?

Juliana Christine:

When I first heard the word bitter, I was like whoa. So much sense of how I feel and I would get I get an image of like a, like an old angry woman with her like cheeks pulled in and her lips purse staring out her window. And I was like, that’s what better feels to me.

Vickie Dickson:

They don’t resonate. It’s like they don’t want to see that right.

Juliana Christine:

Maybe yeah, it’s a shadow. That is not that’s not the loveliest to look at right it’s like the old woman who’s locked out the world and it’s just peeking out thinking how like, awful everybody else. And that’s how my bitterness creeps in and my bitterness starts to come in. And then it’s like all of my heart energy falls away. There’s nothing left. It’s like all of the juiciness that I love about life and love about other people falls away. And there’s it’s like everybody wants something from me. That’s how my bitterness shows up. Everybody wants something from me and I have nothing to give. Yeah.

Vickie Dickson:

So is there a way that you can make it okay? Like, are the people in your life understanding that okay, I don’t have anything to give right now.

Juliana Christine:

Yeah, I’ve trained, I’ve trained the people in my life. So when I, when I discovered Human Design, that was one of the first things that I started doing was I started sharing about how my energy works. I started saying, hey, I don’t know if this resonates with you. But I’m a Projector in Human Design, which means I don’t work like you. Which means my energy is sensitive, and I need more rest. And now, I would say all the people in my life understand that about me. And so if I am working on a big project, if I have met a certain part of my cycle, my nearest and dearest to me, I understand that and they, if I say, I’m sorry, I don’t have space today. They totally get it. And don’t take offense to that, which is amazing.

Vickie Dickson:

Okay, so if you’re a Projector and you’re listening to this episode, I want you to take note of that phrase, even if you have to go back a little bit and re-listen to that, that part of the episode where Juliana said, I don’t have space for that right now. That is completely. And I think no matter what our Human Design type, that is a phrase that we should all be using more. I don’t have space for that right now. I’m at capacity. Because any of us can be frustrated or angry or bitter or any of the things. So we need to be understanding of ourselves, we can be so much more understanding with the other people in our life when they need space. Or we give them a pass if we’re oh well, they’re probably tired. They probably do so much. We don’t think that about ourselves, right? Yeah, yeah. So you do a lot with magic in your world. And you have fairy guides. I was watching one of your Oracle pulls on YouTube the other day, it was super fun. So can you talk to me about how all of this started? Like why? Why magic? Why is that the thing that draws you? Where does that come from?

Juliana Christine:

It’s been in my life for as long as I can remember, magic has been. I mean, it’s like that childlike essence quality that we all have when we’re kids, it just never left. I have memories of my mom holding me up against the window. And like talking to the moon when we were when I was little. There’s a deep connection to nature, which is where I believe we can see the magic in the mundane so easily as humans when we look to nature, and this comes through my lineage, my great grandmother and my grandfather, I would say I often say magic saved my life. And that is because my connection to this fairy realm, my connection to the crows, the great oak trees here on the West Coast. During my time when I was a teenager, I was very depressed, I attempted suicide. It was that connection that made life worth living. When everything felt dark, and nothing made sense, it was the way that the raindrops sparkle in on the branches and the trees. It was the way the birds worked through the air. It was the hummingbirds. It was the idea of looking into the trees and going elves and fairies live up there and gnomes live in those little crevices in the bottoms. And then it was much later that I got into the etymology of words I love. I love the root of words. And I discovered that magic comes from the proto indo European word mag and A G H and it means power, to hold power. And I truly believe that we can when we can see the magic in the mundane out in nature, when we can see the magic in ourselves, that’s an invocation to calling back our power. Because our world pulls out magic out of us so quickly. I think it’s one of the fastest conditioning that happens as children is: No that’s not true. No, that doesn’t exist. No, that’s not realistic, right sends us right up into our head. And if we can reclaim magic in our lives as not something that just exists in Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, if we can reclaim it for ourselves we take back with is ours, what is our birthright.

Vickie Dickson:

And what would you say that birthright is

Juliana Christine:

To be the co-creators of this existence, to be the co-creators of our life, we are not victims to our circumstances. We have so much brick and power inside of us. And that’s our birthright – to create a life that we want to live, which then ripples out and changes the world.

Vickie Dickson:

I’m here for that. That’s really incredible. I think that we need a lot more people willing to step into their magic and change the world. For sure, for sure, for sure. So you said that you never lost touch with your magic. Is that true? That’s a Generator style question. I’m sorry. But never, never, never never?

Juliana Christine:

I mean, probably when I tempted suicide I gave up. But the way that I look at it, is it’s like Persephone, the myth of Persephone. She’s the Goddess of the underworld and the Goddess of spring. And some mythologies talk about how Hades dragged her down. I don’t look at the mythology that way. Because there’s something that is so necessary for us to go deep into the depths of our pain into the depths of hell. In order for us to see the blossoms, the trees to bring back the light, it’s like, we talk so much in, in the Gene Keys and in our gates, in Human Design, about the shadow expression of that gate. And that shadow is here, because we are living in these third dimensional forms, that is, that wants to live, right. So it’s going to do anything to survive. And that survival in itself is a gift. So we’ve developed all of these ways that we cope and avoid, and strategize to keep ourselves alive. That’s brilliant of the shadow to do that. That’s so frickin’ brilliant, right? And so that shadow is so necessary for this experience in this life. And so while I may have lost moments of it, it was the magic that kept me going. It gave me purpose. I have this memory when I lived in Vancouver, right before I discovered Human Design, where I was walking up, it was like November rainy Vancouver weather, and I was walking up West 10th, and it was after a brutal, brutal relationship breakup. And I was coming back from the library. And I was just like, what’s the point? And then I heard it, my this voice in my head that said, look up. So I looked up, and they’re in the pouring down freezing cold rain, this little, little hummingbird sitting on a Japanese maple branch, twittering away that you have to tune your ear just perfectly to hear. And it’s like those moments have happened to me regularly in my life that just go when I just start to dip that low. It’s like no wait, look.

Vickie Dickson:

And I think those moments happen for all of us. But we are so conditioned not to see them. And I noticed that you’re pointing to your right ear, you and I share that gate 57 of the right ear. And I feel like so many times I hear something my right ear. And it’s just like, you know, there is that. But we’re, like you said when we’re kids, we’re so conditioned away from finding solace in nature, from our imaginary friends, from the magic inside of us, all of those things. But I would venture to say that every single person on this planet has some sort of an intuitive nudge like that, to bring them back to their own magic, whether they’re listening to it or not. You talked about the shadow. And I love the way you talk with the nervous system. Because in my health background, we’ve talked about self sabotage. And I hate that term. Because I’m always like, no, just stop for a second and thank your nervous system for trying to keep you safe. Thank that shadow side, because that’s all that our bodies are ever trying to do is to keep us safe. So we could start to look at all of these behaviors as a clue that oh, okay, I’m feeling unsafe right now. And you do a lot of work with the nervous system. I know you have a background in psychotherapy, but I think you’ve moved away from that now, right? I mean, it will always be there but you’re practicing more in this other world. So can you talk to me about the work you do with the new nervous system?

Juliana Christine:

So much teaching, we have to understand that our bodies they’re like working 24 hours a day around the clock to keep us alive? without us having to think about it. The autonomic nervous system is constantly going. And there’s so much conditioning in our world that vilifies the body that shames the body that doesn’t look right. There’s pain in the body, whatever it might be. And so first, I really like to do some very basic nervous system teaching around like, why your body is communicating to you the way that it is, how it survives, what the fight-flight-freeze responses may look like, individually, because of what it might look like for you, Vickie, is going to look differently for me. So we have to be willing to first explore that piece. Everything comes back to the body, your body is giving you just like you said, like hearing from the ear, that’s the senses. It’s a higher expression of those senses. But it’s still the senses, the senses are picking up and communicating to us all the time. And because we live so much in the head, and we’re cut off from our bodies, we take little niggles in our backs, or in our guts, as just being something and we completely ignore it. So my work starts with really getting into, well, what do you notice in your body, when you’re talking about that, like right now I’m noticing in my body, that I’m kind of vibrating a little bit in my Solar Plexus, those like, there’s more vibration. And my heart’s beating a little quickly. And that’s because I’m a little nervous, because we’re having this conversation. You’re asking me questions that I love to talk about. And my body is going to have a response to that. Right? We don’t have to be cool all the time and collected and like, this is like I am you know, sitting on a mountaintop completely calm all the time. No, that’s bullshit. Our bodies are gonna have responses to things. And we need to start looking at them and recognizing them. So I do a lot of work. What’s your body feeling right now, like, I know, if my lower back starts to twinge a little bit, it’s because I’m either eating too much inflammatory food, or I haven’t rested enough. And so it’s like, okay, lower back, thanks lower back for telling me this.

Vickie Dickson:

So many people are out of touch with their bodies. I know, especially when I work with a Generator type. So Generator or Manifesting Generator. And they have no idea what Sacral energy feels like. And it takes sometimes months and months and months for them to message me and be like, Oh, my gosh, I felt my Sacral today. And it’s like, holy cow, here’s this thing, your compass that is meant to guide you through all of your life experience. And you can’t even feel it because you’ve been conditioned away from trusting your body. Like it’s, it’s tragic how we used to teach kids. And us when we were kids not to trust our bodies. It’s changing now. And then I think there’s also a real acceptance of feeling badly all the time. Like people expect that as they get older, they’re going to be in pain, or they’re going to not enjoy the things that they once enjoyed. And I call bullshit on that all the time. But I think it’s just that we’re unaware. Like, we just don’t know what feeling good feels like anymore. We’ve tuned ourselves out for way, way, way, way too long. Totally. You and I had a conversation about I think you call it nonlinear movement. This is one of the modalities that you practice. Can you talk to us a little bit about that?

Juliana Christine: 

Yeah, that’s not linear movement is was founded by a woman named Mikayla Balm. And I’ve trained with her. And I’m just going to talk about my nephew for a second. He’s turning five. And he’s a Manifesting Generator. And I remember just back to your Sacral for a second. This feels super important. I remember being at my brother’s house, and he was asking my nephew. What did you do with Oma yesterday? Right, this open ended question and my little four year old nephew Atlas, like just a blank stare. Right? What did you do with Oma? What kind of question is that? And then my brother said: Did you make something with Oma yesterday? And Atlas goes, YEAH, and then runs to the freezer to go get these popsicles that he made. That, to me, is the Sacral. It’s like, it’s like just this instantaneous and it’s at that age where we start teaching our children to say, Yes, please. No, thank you. That it takes them away from that.

Vickie Dickson:

I just want to refresh this for our listeners, okay. Just in case they’re not remembering. So what Juliana is talking about is that as Generator types, you’re going to respond best to yes or no questions. So have the people in your life ask you yes or no questions. Open ended questions are really hard for us. Multiple choice questions are really hard for us. So it’s not, for your child, do you want eggs or a bagel? It’s do you want to eggs? And then, do you want a bagel? And then so you, you let them answer from their Sacral. Same thing goes for you. If you don’t want your spouse to ask you, would you like to go to the pub? Or would you rather have Italian or would you rather have Chinese? Like no, you just need a yes or no question. Whereas when you’re speaking to someone who is we call non Sacral beings, so Reflector, Projector or Manifester. They need the open ended questions you may have noticed me apologize to Juliana a few questions ago because I asked her something that was a yes or no question and it’s going to be a lot easier for Projectors in your life, Manifestors in your life, Reflectors in your life, for you to ask them open ended questions. But for your Sacral you want to ask one thing at a time in a yes or no manner. So yes, that’s it you’re right Juliana, because I have grandchildren and they are, well now we have one Manifester that was just born, Colby’s a Manifestor, but everybody else is Manifesting Generator, or a Generator. And it’s so interesting how I have to stop myself continually from saying adding the please on right. We have to let them have their Sacral sounds and it’s so weird because it’s not polite. They’re 34-20. So they’re like yep, nope, yep, nope. Now, Sawyer is, she’s almost four, and she’ll say after a few breaths, thanks anyways to people when she says no. Anyways, a few breaths later, but it’s, it seems like such a little thing. But it is the biggest thing to condition, a Generator type away from their Sacral response. Anyway, I do want to talk to you about being a 3/5 profile as well, because that’s her profile. But we’ll go back to where we were we before we started on that.

Juliana Christine: 

Yeah that was such an important one. I tell all my clients that like, let your kids, let your kids not say please, or please or thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is where nonlinear movement comes in. So one of the biggest conditionings that I’ve experienced, and that happens in our world is this specific way to move the body. And I’ve, I’ve got part of my background is in yoga. And yoga was very, very beneficial for me to heal anxiety, depression, and really come back into myself. But yoga is very disciplined in nature do you breathe in, your arms go up, you breathe out, you fold over, you breathe in, you do upward dog, and so on. The suspect this has its place. But what’s happened in this is that we forget that our bodies actually know how to heal themselves. I mean, they’re like beating our hearts all day long and breathing when we don’t actually think about it. So nonlinear movement is an intuitive movement practice, it is literally spending time with your body and allowing it to move however it wants. So there’s a few different ways that you do this is you really want to get access to your spine, because our spine, the central channel for our vagus nerve. So everything that our vagus nerve is picking up in the sentence is coming through the spinal column going up to the brain round to all of front of our chest, into our guts. And that spine, our spines, from sitting all day from doing things, our spines are not well worked, they are not as fluid as they, as they can be. So in order to get full access to the spine, we practice on the floor. This is not done standing up and you start on your hands and knees, you then choose music that has no lyrics. So just instrumental music, because lyrics will influence what you’re thinking about, they will influence what you’re feeling. And then the third thing is you close your eyes to limit the amount of input that your brain is further taking it. And you can start this practice of super simple, you pick a song, five minutes minimum, and you play it. And you start on your hands and knees, you let your head drop, and then you move your body. However it wants to move. There are no rules other than keep your eyes closed, stay on the floor, you can sit down, you can go onto your back, you can be on your side, you can stay on your hands and knees, just don’t stand up. That part there are no rules. You can do whatever you want. When I run these groups with people, they come up to me afterwards and they’re like, Well, what was I supposed to do? Then? I’m like, Yeah, whatever your body wanted to do.

Vickie Dickson:

But we don’t know. We’re not in tune enough with our bodies to understand what our bodies want to do.

Juliana Christine: 

Well, yes, yes. So that nonlinear movement practice is one thing that I love to give my clients to do and I hold group sessions and I also do them in one on one with people. 

Vickie Dickson:

Do you do them online or just in person?

Juliana Christine: 

I do them online. Yeah. Okay. And sometimes in person but mostly online. 

Vickie Dickson:

Yeah. Okay, awesome. So we are going to have Juliana’s contact information in the show notes. We’re going to switch gears a little bit. And this is kind of a personal thing that I want to know because I think it’s super fun is your 3/5 profile. So my granddaughter Sawyer, who my listeners hear about constantly, is a 3/5 profile and so is my son, Samuel, and I think that you guys get a bad rap for one thing, and I see her, she is the craziest child I have ever known. I ran a home daycare for 10 years, and had, I don’t know how many kids are here, and and she’s the craziest one of all of them. Like she is so full of life. She’s a 34-20 Manifesting Generator, a 3/5 profile. So talk to me about being a 3/5 profile. How is this played out in your life? That’s a big question. I know. 

Juliana Christine: 

But like, no, it’s a great question. I love talking about 3/5 profiles. I love 3/5 profiles, because we look like unhinged people.

Vickie Dickson:

I think it’s the perfect word.

Juliana Christine: 

Yeah, I remember, when I was 37, I counted how many jobs I’d have had in my life. And I’d had more jobs than years that I had been alive. That’s one way that my 3/5 plays out. And it’s not because I wasn’t good at the jobs. I worked with this catering company, catering job. And then they were like, well, we’re also hiring for an office manager. And I’m like, well, I could learn how to do that. And then I learned how to do it. And I’m like, hey, I’m bored. I don’t want to do this anymore. I got what I needed from it. And I leaned to the next thing. This happened in hotels that I worked in, I would go from being staff cafeteria attendant to a breakfast cook to a mini bar attendant to a guest service agent to a waitress like with like one thing after the other after the other. And before I knew what a 3/5 profile was, it was kind of like, why am I bored? Why do I get so bored? And I realized that it’s like I go in, and I heard Richard Rudd describe it this way once and I loved this. 3/5’s. We go long life, 3/5’s, but this 3 line. And we come across a hole. And we’re like, oh, what’s down that hole? And then we jumped down the hole and we go, well, that’s not nice. And whoa, that’s really pretty. And ooh, that’s crap, I don’t want that. And then we pop back out again. And we go, guess what I found down there. And then we keep going to the next hole or the next mountain. And that’s what life is.

Vickie Dickson:

I love the way that you describe it. And for 3/5 profiles listening or for 3rd line profiles, listening, I want you to hear this because, and you come back and you say, look what I experienced. Look what I found. And I think this is the missing piece. Because 3rd line profiles have a lot of shame around their life experience, a lot of shame around oh my god, like I always say they run fast and break things. And they just feel so much shame around that. I worked with a 3/5 Manifesting Generator yesterday. And he is so afraid to make mistakes. And my heart is breaking for him because I’m like, oh my god, buddy, you’re here to make mistakes, which isn’t really a very popular opinion. But it’s like you have to make those mistakes to learn, so that you bring what you’ve learned to everyone else. That’s the gift of the 3rd line profile. But there’s, there’s so much conditioning on that 3rd line profile and you know, someone might look at you and say, she’s a Projector she should be solid. She should be just focused on one thing. I hate that “should” word but here you are having this 3rd line life experiences.

Juliana Christine: 

Yeah, it is, it is so heartbreaking when I see people who are afraid to make mistakes. And I say go practice it in the kitchen because I will never cook the same thing. Even if I have a recipe. I will try to follow the recipe as closely as possible. And it’s never the same ever. And it’s because I go oh, what would it be like if I do this or oh, I don’t need that much ginger today, or I’m going to double the ginger today.

Vickie Dickson:

And I love that because you are a Projector. And that’s not what we typically think so this is where I think we have to really look at that we can’t say well, she’s a Projector – so. He’s a Manifestor – so. She’s a Manifesting Generator – so. It’s so nuanced, like your Human Design is all of the pieces of your chart that make you you. And yeah, anyway, labeling is another thing. Maybe that’s conversation we’ll have another day about labeling, but the nuances are so important. So how are you using your 3/5 profile in your business?

Juliana Christine: 

So this is where I really had to reconcile with myself, because I have done so many things in my life. I have, I spent over a decade in deep yoga study. I have been a dream worker since I was 11. I remember filling out journals of writing my dreams down since I was 11 years old. I’ve been doing that my entire life. I have gone in to study shamanic journey work – that was only for a year. There’s the 3/5 going, whoo, that was only for a year. So how do you know you’re actually doing it? You need to do that deeply. Right? I have. I worked in forestry. I was a forest technician, I flew around in helicopters and hiked in the middle of nowhere. But I discovered from that was the the depths of how our ecology influences different things. So the soil type is going to dictate what trees grow, the trees are going to dictate what, what undergrowth is there, what type of animals live there. And I use that now, when my work around connecting to the trees, I always say I wanted to hug the trees, rather than like, lay them out to get cut down. I wanted to do that more. And so I bring, like I’ve trained in Emotional Freedom Technique, the tapping, right. I’ve been trained and all of these different modalities. And I’ve really had to reconcile with myself that that is exactly what I’m here to do as a 3/5. And when I work with my clients, I will pull out things that I haven’t used in years because suddenly they’re sitting in front of me and it’s like, I go, I know what all I think I know what I’ll help. And a girlfriend of mine said this to me once, she’s a Manifestor. She’s my birthday twin. She said she saw me walking in autumn, in Vancouver ahead of her, I was wearing a long like trench coat. And she was like, oh, you’re like this camouflaged witch that moves through the forest. And inside this trench coat, you have all of these treasures. And only when someone sees you, right being recognized as a Projector, then you open your trenchcoat and go, oh, I know what can possibly help – do you want to try this? And that really helps me take all of these things that I have spent, pretty much my whole life gathering, into what I then offer my clients. And I say to people, it’s never, never ever the same. For one, it’s never the same.

Vickie Dickson:

That’s beautiful. And I feel like for our listeners, not only will that be oftentimes the Projector experience, but it’ll be the 2nd line experience very much as well. I’m a 2nd line profile. And there’s so many things and, and I mean, the whole world wants you to niche down. Episode 40, which is a couple of episodes ago, you can go back and listen to that if you want. It’s about niching. And I feel like this niche conversation, like I just want to like put a plug in it and throw it over there, right? Because there’s so many of us that niching down is, is a really, really hard thing to do. And by the time you are in your 40s and 50s and beyond, you have gathered so much life experience. And if you do not bring that to your work, it’s a disservice to your clients. Like you’re not serving them. Well. If you don’t, if you, if you’re afraid to pull this thing out of your trench coat, right. And same, you know, for 2nd lines, they need to be called out as well. They need to be recognized for what’s being recognized. And you notice those things. Those are your gifts, and it’s really, really important that we share our gifts. Speaking of, you have a gift that you’re about to share. I think you’re launching a program coming up very shortly. So can you talk to us a little bit about that?

Juliana Christine: 

Yes, I sure can. It’s called Unleash Your Magic. And it’s a four month portal for the wise and wild woman who’s ready to step out of the shadows and dare to shine. And we use what I call the magic codes to access your internal power, to heal self doubt, to learn how to trust yourself – so that you can create the life that you want. So you can truly embody the oracle that you are and step forward as you co-create with the universe. And the magic codes that I draw on are rhythm, Soma, which is our body, energy, which is where I lean into Human Design, sovereignty and check of course.

Vickie Dickson:

That sounds absolutely life changing. I noticed on your website or there is a place there for magic code. There’s a lot of information on your site for someone who wants to go in and kind of play around and see there’s a free meditation there that you can download so you can get a little bit of a taste of Juliana. Yeah, and we will have all of your info in the show notes, so we’ll have information on how to reach her on Instagram, her YouTube channel is robust, her website, all of that stuff will be there. But you tell me Juliana, what is your favorite place? Someone reaches out to you on what platform and your heart sings and goes, oh, yeah, good to have a conversation here. What’s your favorite?

Juliana Christine: 

On my newsletter, I send out. I love, love to connect with people on my newsletter. I send out a weekly newsletter that I call “The Magic Of”, and then we find magic in whatever is, whatever. It’s kind of like storytime. And I always love it when the people who read my newsletter reply and tell me what, what it inspired in them.

Vickie Dickson:

Okay. And we’ll have that linked in the show notes for you so that you can get on the email list. I love email, too. I just feel like it’s so much more of you. Like I’m talking to my people, rather than, you know, like on social media where you feel like it’s just going out into some void. So yes, we all do social media, but the email is, is really a beautiful thing. So anything else that you would like to have our listeners understand or know about connecting with their magic or human design any of that their projector experienced? Before we close?

Juliana Christine: 

It’s an experiment. So Vickie, I will tell you something, I will tell you something, someone else will tell you something. And it’s your experience to determine what is correct for you or not. I remember being in a yoga gathering where my yoga teachers brought their teacher from India, this 80 year old man came from India and sat with us. And I remember him saying he looked out at us. And he said, don’t just trust me that this stuff works. Go and do it yourself. And I think that is, that is the best wisdom that I’ve ever heard. And it really works well for a 3/5 too. That was like permission granted, right? To go and try it yourself. And our, our world is constantly telling us you should do this, do this, do this, do this. And that’s all great. But your discernment, your ability to determine whether something is correct for you or not, is through your own experience. If you spend your life trying to decide that living in your head, you’re just going to spin in your head go out and see how your body feels when you’re doing that. And then take it as information. I still initiate sometimes. Right? And then I go, Oh, I initiated. Okay, cool. Well, that was a different way that I initiated. And it felt different that time. There’s information for me.

Vickie Dickson:

Yeah. Yeah, I know that I said that you’ve been closed. But I do have one more question for you. If you’re up for that, because we had a conversation a while back on Instagram about how you are learning to surrender to the invitation. And I think that this will be very helpful for my listeners who are Projectors, or who have Projectors in their life. What does surrendering to the invitation mean?

Juliana Christine: 

So, this came from the first piece that I think that we don’t talk about enough as Projectors is the recognition. And it’s about starting to recognize yourself. Projectors are here to be beams of light, we’re here to shine, we’re here to just stand tall in who we are. And then like, that magnetizes the invitations towards us. But that light, if it’s clouded by self doubt, if it’s clouded by conditioning, if it’s clouded by a need to like get from someone, so we feel better about ourselves, that light gets super distorted. And so one of the best ways that I really found to do this was in mirror work, was to every day I go stand and I look in the mirror, and I say I recognize you for and I named something. And it might be if I’m in a really, if I’m in if I’m in an energy low, it might be I recognize you for doing the dishes today. Or it might be I recognize you for having that amazing conversation with that client today. Or I recognize you for posting a reel on Instagram, whatever, whatever it might be. And I can go deeper than that. I recognize you for walking through your shadows today. And sitting in your grief today. And I have found I heard this. I used to hear this. And I was like oh, let’s I don’t know about that. And then I was like okay, well let’s practice it. And it is actually what has shifted a lot for me. It’s like how can I? How can I expect people to recognize me? If I’m not recognizing myself? This world, it is a house of mirrors, as one of my mentors says, right? The house of mirrors and so everything is a reflection for us to learn from. And so if I’m looking for that reflection from someone to recognize me for opportunities so that I can shine my light brighter in the world, I need to go and stand in front of the mirror and recognize myself.

Vickie Dickson:

That might just be the most beautiful thing that I have ever heard in Human Design. Well, the real thank you for sharing that with me that really is powerful, that hits home for sure, Kane. So for our listeners who are Projectors, your homework is to get in front of that mirror and recognize your damn self or something. I don’t care what it is, like Juliana said it could be doing the dishes. It could be doing your shadow work, it doesn’t matter what it is. But like, I have tears behind my eyes right now because of how powerful I know that will be for people. So thank you for sharing that with us. It really, I think, that’s a real game changer for Projectors who are listening. Yeah, and thank you for being here.

Juliana Christine: 

Thank you so much for having me the key to the invitation.

Vickie Dickson: 

Oh you’re welcome. You’re welcome. Thanks for saying yes. So for our listeners. I think in this episode, we learned a lot about being a Projector, we learned a lot about connecting to our magic again, we know that life is going to kick us around. That’s just how it is. We’re here to be kicked around a little bit. That’s how we learn our lessons. Especially for those of you that are three, three line profiles or three five profiles, you’re gonna get kicked around, maybe more than others. And tapping into your own inner magic and the wisdom of your body is really your best chance at staying unjaded.